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Russia sentences 15-year-old schoolboy to 5 years for criticizing Putin regime and war against Ukraine Russia/Ukraine

https://khpg.org/en/1608813775
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u/kowkow151 5d ago

Who? Name two. And Prigozhin doesn't count.

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u/wombatcombat123 5d ago

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u/kowkow151 5d ago

Almost all of those are businesspeople and politicians from the oil industry, not military leaders. I want someone to name two military leaders that are not Prigozhin.

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u/wombatcombat123 5d ago

I mean technically it wasn't just Prigozhin it was most of the Wagner high command.

The way he phrased it might have been incorrect but the intention and point still stands. I don't think it's controversial to say Russian military commanders would be afraid to speak out against the state considering they blew up the fucking plane of the last guy that done that, and get rid of people on a regular basis.

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u/Mavian23 4d ago

I don't think it's controversial to say Russian military commanders would be afraid to speak out against the state

We've come full circle. That's the point. The parent comment suggests this 15 year old boy is braver than his nation's military leaders.

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u/wombatcombat123 4d ago

I mean yeah, that's what I've been saying.

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u/Mavian23 4d ago

Yea but the person you were talking to was never contesting that.

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u/kowkow151 5d ago

I'm from Russia and I honestly think it's a false way of looking at how Putin works. The oil industry thing is really separate - it's just fucking weird.

The Prigozhin situation is really an exception: the guy started a fucking INSURRECTION and marched on Moscow. That's an obvious death sentence.

Military leaders aren't afraid of Putin assassinating them, that's not his method. No, it's much simpler: either they're not against the war at all, or they just enjoy the money/social status/privileges etc.

It's important to understand Putin's methods if you want to understand Russia. He doesn't rule by fear and doesn't kill people left and right. He just surrounds himself with politicians and leaders who are happy with the way things are.

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u/wombatcombat123 5d ago

I mean I can see that yeah, there's no point in murdering half your war cabinet if you don't really have too, and it's not like they are complaining, they aren't the ones fighting.

I just also don't think it's wrong to say they would be afraid to speak out if any of them did have any negative opinions on the war. I do believe if you did cause a stir with making such opinions public Putin or whoever else in the Russian government would find a way to shut you up, whether that involves murder or not.

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u/Koqcerek 5d ago

But he kills lots of people. Indirectly, but often intentionally obviously, so everyone knows what really happened.

Yeah, he doesn't do it all the time, but he desn't have to. Because of the implication