unfortunately that is not likely. he was sentenced to 4 years but after 1 year they allowed him to compete again. He has been competing like nothing happened since at least 2018. Obviously its not causing enough of a problem. This is unbelievable and disgusting.
A lot of European countries have grossly weak punishments for sexual assault and pedophilia. It should be mandatory life in prison for the type of perpetrators who can’t be rehabilitated
I wonder what their next victim would say about it. And the one after, and the one after. How many girls are you willing to allow in the path of a rapist? Where’s the research that proves it will increase the number of murdered when even with only a light sentence on the table so many of them kill their victims anyway.
i think you didnt understand the point correctly or i misunderstood.
as far as i understand, the other guy said that when you bring the punishment to prison for life level, they, rapist/pedophiles, will kill their victims to ensure they arent caught. a dead person is less likely to report you, than a living one.
and thats not what you, he or anyone wants right? im not trying to defend any of those guys, im sure the other guy isnt too, but simply saying that raising the punishment will do more harm to victims than help or protect them
This would imply that because the punishment is not harsh, the individual committing the crime is "ok" with having a witness and is less likely to kill the victim?
This would also imply that these very same criminals are only not murdering their victims is because the punishment isnt as harsh... Not that these people arent murderers, just that its not worth going that far and that its fine such individuals walk around free after a very short period of time incarcerated?
our system needs to be disposed of entirely and built anew. if we are to believe we've arrived at 'late-stage capitalism,' we are past the point of potential reform. but I appreciate your sentiment.
In states than ban abortion they are looking at charging women who get abortions with murder, even rape victims. This would lead to women getting longer prison sentences than their rapists.
I mean. You’re not correct. “Scandinavia” rates may vary but they are lower(20% recidivism) than most of the western world, specifically the USA being over 50% recidivism
Seriously. I blame this squarely on "sports people." Not people who play sports, but those idiotic jocks who peaked in highschool and perpetuate toxicity in sports.
It's disgusting how many schools/sports teams have the standard of "the better you are at said sport, the more shit you can get away with." As if winning is so important that morals can just be thrown out the window.
Henry Riggs got 3 years for speeding 156 while drunk in a residential area and burning a young woman and her dog to death. A lot of people traumatized for life who saw it and could not help.
Women got a get out of jail free card do to left pressure that she is a black women. She was a dumb ass who brought marijuana to Russia … and we gave away the fing merchant of death for sorry ass.
He is not out of the league because of his legal problems, he is out of the league because he is a massive asshole and clubhouse cancer who isn’t worth all that baggage to sign. You do not have a right to an MLB roster spot
Yes but that doesn't work in today's society where allegations are flung without evidence. We need laws that promote discretion and privacy of those accused until a conviction happens.
Or, how about this, as a famous person don’t put yourself in a position where these kind of accusations could be made and have a reasonable chance of being true
He choked and physically abuse a woman, he has never denied it. The question was consent, and yes he should sue her for every penny he can get for what she did.
Or, how about this, as a famous person don’t put yourself in a position where these kind of accusations could be made and have a reasonable chance of being true
That's such a dumb take. People can always be accused of shit they didn't do. Everyone deserves basic protections unless it can be definitely proven they did some shit.
He choked and physically abuse a woman, he has never denied it. The question was consent,
So BDSM... I don't see how that's an issue if it was indeed consensual. I get that BDSM isn't pretty, the optics are bad but what people do in their bedroom is their business.
and yes he should sue her for every penny he can get for what she did.
Pretty sure the woman accusing him was booked for fraud...
I’m in the UK, which is where that guy was sentenced by the looks of it. In my opinion, prison terms are often way too short. I feel like there’s constantly things in the news along the lines of “couple who murdered their own child receive 5 years” or “serial rapist sentenced to 7 years”. It’s just crazy.
And their victims get a life sentence of trauma. It's fucked up. I know a family who took care of their family member's rapist. And by took care. I mean killed. And they couldn't pin it on anyone because multiple people planned it and executed and they could not make a prosecution case. At least the victim didn't have to fear him anymore.
Yep I guess he generates enough money… I was wondering about his volleyball partners. Seems like he had 3 different ones since. Any person that just continues to work with him like nothing happened should also be judged harshly in my opinion…
And thus you have the reason rape will never stop. The sentencing never matches what rapists have done. Here we are in 2024 and instead of fixing that problem, they’re worried about giving women the death penalty for seeking an abortion. Maybe if the death penalty or life without parole was the norm for sentencing rapist, they would maybe give it a second thought before doing it. They know there are thousands and thousands of rape kits waiting to be tested, and they also know no one in law enforcement really cares.
The sentence of 4 years was IMO way too short for an adult paedophile rapist who travelled internationally specifically to rape a pre-teen child who he had contacted and groomed over the internet, knowing she was only 12.
He apparentlyflew over on the Saturday, plied her with alcohol, took her virginity, raped her again on the Sunday, and then flew back home that same day. He admitted in court to 3 counts of rape.
The judge gave him 4 years prison, which in our system would have meant between 32 and 48 months actually in prison, he could have applied for Parole after 2/3, 32 months, and it would have been considered, but if denied he would have had to wait another 12 months to apply again. I'm not sure if it was an 'extended sentence' but that would be normal for such a crime, and would mean the custodial time would be followed by another 3 years on licence during which he'd have been subject to being recalled back to jail for any other offences.
He would also have been on the Violent and Sex Offender Register for life, which is non-trivial: required to keep the police aware of any changes to his name or address, any address he stays for more than 7 days, any intended travel 7 days prior to departure, any household or private place where he was present for more than 12 hours if a person under 18 has been present, his passport number, and any credit card and bank account details. Even if nothing changes and none of this happens, they have to visit the police every year to reconfirm their details. Failure to comply is a separate offence, subject to a penalty of five years imprisonment.
But none of that worked, as he just stayed in the Netherlands, went to a Dutch prison, and they let him go after 12 months so he could be in their sports team.
The whole entire thing is disgusting. In his case, I think nothing less than castration was/is enough. I know lots of people don’t agree, but when someone is this messed up in the head, there’s no rehabilitating someone like this.
If they were competing anywhere else in the world, I would be inclined to agree with you.
HOWEVER! They're going to France and if there is one country not afraid to protest (and do it in style) its the French. Parisians in particular.
They were/are willing to shit in the river siene as an act of protest against these Olympic games; o wouldn't be surprised if a member of the public went so far as to taze the guy.
Whether you like it or not, if their freedom is eventually earned, they need to be able to support themselves somehow. If they are good at sport ball, let it be sport ball.
oh no I understand that people need to be able to integrate into society after they serve their time. still, I think sex crimes involving children are a special category… and if you consider 1 year for this being reasonable to “earn his freedom” then lets just agree to absolutely disagree…
also it would be one thing letting him play locally, him taking some other role in the sport etc… versus him representing entire country on a prestigious world event and setting an example that history of sex crimes involving minors is not big enough obstacle to stop you from reaching your dreams! 🙄🙄
If you EVER get your freedom back, nothing should stop you from succeeding except your current actions. Continued punishment after being released is bullshit, and is exactly why some people just commit another crime to "go back home". It's better to have a 3 meals and a cot than to be starving on the street because no one will hire you.
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u/puppypupperoon 4d ago
unfortunately that is not likely. he was sentenced to 4 years but after 1 year they allowed him to compete again. He has been competing like nothing happened since at least 2018. Obviously its not causing enough of a problem. This is unbelievable and disgusting.