r/MinecraftDungeons • u/Mcglizzy210 • 3d ago
Just rerolled so many times please tell me there’s good enchants😭 Gameplay
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u/Apprehensive_Gas_590 3d ago
Chilling is the only good enchant I'm afraid. I think your better off just hunting for a better Wither Armor in the Lower Temple Secret Level
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u/LordPorkshire 3d ago
Reckless is good.
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u/Bartburp93 2d ago
Thorns is good too
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u/LordPorkshire 2d ago
Thorns sucks.
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u/Bartburp93 2d ago
You can return twice their damage to mobs that hit you, idk what you're talking about
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u/ShinkuNY 2d ago
Well, let's look at it like this.
Assuming you have no damage reduction (which is a big assumption), an Armored Vindicator does 528,788 damage to you on Apocalypse+25.
So Thorns would be returning 1,057,576 damage to the Armored Vindicator.
But that same Armored Vindicator has over 6,000,000 health, so Thorns is only doing about 14% to them, ASSUMING you don't have Iron Hide Amulet to cut the damage that he does to you (and himself) in half.
That's not enough to make a real difference, when you have weapons that are doing 4 million DPS or more. At that point even Burning would be adding more DPS.
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u/LordPorkshire 2d ago
Thorns is bad because mobs generally have way more health than players do, so the damage is insignificant. u/ShinkuNY can back me up on this.
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u/Bartburp93 2d ago
- Imagine asking someone irrelevant to back you up (oh wait you don't have to).
- Extra damage in any way Is key, especially in situations where dealing damage is hard such as with ranged mobs in packs.
- I said it was good, not amazing or anything, looking back now multi-roll would probably be a better choice.
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u/LordPorkshire 2d ago
But here’s the thing. It’s not good. It is worse than most armor enchantments. It’s not as bad as Final Shout, Protection, Explorer, Recycler, Gravity Pulse, etc. but it certainly ain’t even close to being good.
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u/ShinkuNY 2d ago
Irrelevant to the point that, out of all the notifications I get daily, about half of them are from people just mentioning me where I'm not even present. Either in reference to a guide, a video, a build, a calculation, or a point I've made, or referring people to me to explain something in greater detail.
Which is, among many things, something I'm widely known for in the MCD community.
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u/Bartburp93 1d ago
Ok not irrelevant, but publicly asking someone else to back you up in an Internet argument is still cheap imo.
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u/ShinkuNY 1d ago
It's because I've contextualized most things in the game, like the DPS boost of Committed on average, the DPS boost of Voidstrike on all weapons minimum, the chance for Stunning to stunlock mobs for all weapons, the DPS boost you get from Shock Wave/Swirling on all weapons, the speed boost you get from Echo on all weapons, the average DPS boost of Pain Cycle and the specific boost it gives to certain weapons (like Maces), the damage values of every mob, the HP/damage buff mobs get per Trial Tier and Threat Banner, the way certain damage buffs stack, how damage reduction buffs act more like "armor" and how they stack, and stuff like the effective damage Thorns adds, and so on.
That's not to toot my own horn. Just that that kind of info all originated from me. It's second nature to me to go more in depth, so others who reference it tend to either not wanna go deeper in case of getting it wrong, or reference me to summon me because I'm "the math guy" who can break things down with numbers lol.
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u/gratefulkiwis 2d ago
How do u farm there? Isn't sand temple better becouse of gold and obsidian chest?
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeean 3d ago
Thorns isn't good?
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u/Apprehensive_Gas_590 3d ago
Not really. Its damage isn’t very good. It can work but it wouldn’t be my first choice
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u/mobiscuits_5000 3d ago
Chilling and lightning are both good. Probably at least want cooldown on the middle slot.
But what is the gild? If the gild is decent, this is an armor set that is worth rerolling to get it right 👍
Hopefully cooldown, deflect or potion barrier for the gild ??? 🤞🤞
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u/Mcglizzy210 3d ago
Ahh I put the wrong picture the gild activates artifacts on low hp😭
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u/GrimReaperAngelof23 3d ago
Rip. Final Shout sucks
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u/Reasonable-Tour1758 2d ago
It’s really good, what are you tarding you tard
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u/CumMonsterYoda 2d ago
It's really not good, it's only useful if you suck at the game but have a friend to revive you or if you make AFK farms
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u/Reasonable-Tour1758 2d ago
Can you tell me why it’s bad? You saying that it’s good only if you’re bad at the game is really dumb when every enchantment is good when you’re bad at the game, final shout can activate artifacts regardless of cooldown.
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u/CumMonsterYoda 2d ago
Well you need to fall below 25% health for it to activate, and this is very close to death. Having Cool Down for less artifact cooldown is much more useful. So it isn't good unless tou play default or adventure. Because on apocalypse+ if you fall below 25% you might be dead anyways. And if you have a soul build with the corrupted beacon it actively sabotages you since it activates it while you're on danger and you can't move. It's only useful for AFK farms, but at that point just open save file editors, it's not like you're going to get banned, this game has been dead from the developer's side for 1.5+ years.
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u/GrimReaperAngelof23 2d ago
And afk gets outclassed by a Prospector Build. So Final Shout is even more useless lol
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u/CumMonsterYoda 2d ago
Well said Grim
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u/GrimReaperAngelof23 2d ago
Thanks
You should see what that guy said in another post. He literally made an entire essay on how he thinks that Final Shout is good
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u/GrimReaperAngelof23 2d ago
Not every enchantment is good. Many have flaws and are downright terrible. Given, some enchants are only good in specific builds. But some enchants are just bad no matter what. Final Shout is one of the bad ones.
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u/Bartburp93 2d ago
Nah thorns is good
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u/mobiscuits_5000 2d ago
Compared to what? You have to take damage to deal damage. Lots of other defensive enchants are better imo
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u/Cust0mCraft 3d ago
You are power 380, it doesn't matter.
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u/Gflesh24 3d ago
Was thinking the same thing, such a shit exploit they should've patched
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u/Mcglizzy210 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’m Pretty sure they stop getting better at 263 or whatever is max I was just rerolling( sad to see the games been abandoned 🗿)
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u/TheyTookXoticButters 2d ago
they stop at 300 something. 316 is what I remember.
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u/NanoError303 2d ago
Their power level is just visual, the stats don't go higher from 312/316 if i remember correctly
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u/Excellent_Ad_9474 2d ago
In the end it matters only the gilded in enchantment, as you can't change it while you can change the other enchantments
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u/EcchiSenpaiiii 2d ago
I been trying to get gilded version of wither armor, is there a way to get in gold hunt?
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u/redditor-123j 2d ago
Fire the thorn things forgot what they’re called and lightning either thy or extra rolls with boots
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u/Wrench_Wars 2d ago
Any enchant is pretty much good
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u/GrimReaperAngelof23 2d ago
Not really
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u/Wrench_Wars 2d ago
Well if it’s level 389 then enchants don’t matter so anything is an added bonus
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u/ERICFIRE_YT 3d ago
Nah, you are for ever cursed lil bro