r/FluentInFinance 5d ago

$14,000,000,000? Discussion/ Debate

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u/ErictheAgnostic 5d ago

Loooooool. With artificial increases in value? Wow. How far things have fallen Smh People now support corporate payouts because they get pennies if they are invested...in the short term. Lol. Wow.

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u/d0s4gw2 5d ago

Do you understand what a stock buyback is? The purpose of issuing stock is to sell equity in a business to raise capital to invest in the business. If there are no attractive opportunities to invest then the business is obligated (but not required) to return that capital back to the shareholders. They can do that with a dividend but that’s a pain to start and stop or change. It’s a lot less complicated to undilute the existing shares by buying some of the shares back and dissolving them, thus increasing the value of the remaining shares in proportion to how many were dissolved. It doesn’t destroy money. The business can always issue new shares in the future and undo the buyback. It’s basically the same thing as paying off a loan or line of credit held by the shareholders.

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u/BlazedLadyBug 5d ago

This is all true. It was also illegal prior to the Reagan administration due to it literally being market manipulation that basically only benefits a-list investors, for whom it is a much lower tax burdened gain in their wealth.

Investment used to be a much longer term strategy. Investors used to understand that not every single year is going to give them a gigantic year over year return. Stock buybacks should be made illegally again. Corporate profits should be used for reinvestment (which is not taxed) or paid out as dividends (which are taxed).

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u/getMeSomeDunkin 5d ago

Lots of shills in this thread defending buybacks like they're some kind of legitimate investment strategy. Can they be used wisely? Sure. Are they ever used in ways other than to manipulate the market and enrich the already rich? Nope.

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u/Chataboutgames 5d ago

They are absolutely legitimate lol. They’re no different than a dividend except investors can choose whether or not they want the taxable event

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u/getMeSomeDunkin 5d ago

Just keep telling yourself that, buddy. I'm sure they'll help you eventually.

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u/Chataboutgames 5d ago

lol I love all these people saying “buybacks are bad!” then being completely unable to explain why. Reddit lemmings

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u/IamTheEndOfReddit 5d ago

Does the world lose nothing of value by getting rid of them? Indeed. It's such an easy win